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- Record Id:
- 040-002024635
- Hierarchy Root Ancestor Record Id:
- 032-002024628
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- ark:/81055/vdc_100000001443.0x0003ad
- LARK:
- ark:/81055/vdc_100152733831.0x000001
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- Add MS 33739
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'The Coppy of a letter written by a M[ast]r of artes in Cambridge to his frende in Londonn concerninge som talke past of late betwene wor[shipfu]ll and graue men aboute the present state and som proceedings of the Earle of Leicester and his frends in Englande' ('Leicester's Commonwealth')
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This text is a manuscript copy of a work of Catholic political polemic, probably published in Rouen in 1584, possibly by George Flinton or by Georges L'Oyselet. It was published as The copie of a leter, wryten by a Master of Arte of Cambrige, to his friend in London, concerning some talke past of late betwen two worshipful and graue men, about the present state, and some procedinges of the Erle of Leycester and his friendes in England. Conceyued, spoken and publyshed, wyth most earnest protestation of al duetyful good wyl and affection, towardes her most excellent Ma. and the realm, for whose good onely it is made common to many. It is better known by the title by which it was informally known as early as 1586, and under which it was republished in 1641: 'Leicester's Commonweath'. It presented a secular case, attacking Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester, as a corrupt and corrupting force within the English state, and also presenting the case for Mary, Queen of Scots keeping her place within the succession and the case for tolerating Catholics. Its authorship was unknown (the attribution to the Jesuit Robert Parsons has not lasted). The modern edition identifies the authors as a circle of English lay Catholic exiles in Paris, chief amongst them Charles Arundell, Leicester's Commonwealth: The Copy of a Letter Written by a Master of Arts of Cambridge (1584) and related documents, ed. by D.C. Peck (Athens, OH, and London: Ohio State Press, 1985), esp. pp. 5-32.
This a scribal copy, probably from the late 16th-century, but possibly from the early 17th-century. Leicester's Commonwealth, ed. by D.C. Peck, pp. 222-227, has identified 57 manuscript copies of varying quality (but amongst them 44 complete texts). This is one of 17 complete texts in the British Library alone (it also holds two imperfect copies and two sets of extracts). The printed book itself was rapidly suppressed, but Peck concludes that all these are copies either from the book itself or from an intermediate manuscript. The title-page (f. 2r) follows the text of the original printed book, only tweaking it to remove an error. The book spoke of a dialogue between two worshipful and grave gentlemen; as the dialogue is actually between three people a Scholar, a Lawyer and a Gentleman this manuscript loses the 'two'.
This manuscript has at the end of the main text (f. 103v) 'finis L: D:'. At the end of the postscript. 'A godlie and profitable meditcaionn of the 28 Chapter of Jobe' (on the fate of wicked men), f. 104v, is a Latin conclusion not in the original, 'Laus et honor soli Deo'. beneath which (possibly in another hand, certainly in another ink) is an overtly Catholic injunction to the Blessed Virgin Mary, which again is not in the original printed text. Also noted there is the more common name of the piece, 'Lesters commonwealth' and a name L: Duneidis': both are evidently the hand of the scribe of the main text. The 19th-cataloguer suggested 'Duneides' might be a Latinate version of 'Downes', which might link it to the manuscript's first named owner.
At the back (f. 105v) is an inscribed name: 'Frauncis' (or 'Fraunces') Downes. This may be Francis Downes of Wardley Hall, Lancashire (1606-1648), MP for Wigan in 1624 and 1625: the son of a Catholic mother who openly declared his Catholicism in the early 1630s.
There are on ff. 1r, 104v, 105r, brief historical comments from 18th and 19th centuries; f. 1r. also contains what looks like the sales catalogue of the books of one of its owners, John Watson (1725-1783) was Rector of Stockport, and on the inside of the cover (f. i verso) is the label of the bookseller and bookbinder Ford (William Ford, 1771-1832) of St Ann's Square, Manchester, which carried the motto, 'Binding neatly executed'.
Contents:
ff. 1r, 104v. 105r: Historical notes.
f. 2r: Title-page.
ff. 3r-104v: The text.
- Collection Area:
- Western Manuscripts
- Project / Collection:
- Additional Manuscripts
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- 032-002024628
040-002024635 - Is part of:
- Add MS 33733-33791 : Grenville Manuscripts
Add MS 33739 : 'The Coppy of a letter written by a M[ast]r of artes in Cambridge to his frende in Londonn concerninge som talke past of late… - Hierarchy:
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- File
- Extent:
- 1 volume
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- Languages:
- English
Latin - Scripts:
- Latin
- Start Date:
- 1584
- End Date:
- 1620
- Date Range:
- 1584-1620
- Era:
- CE
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- Physical Characteristics:
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Materials: Paper.
Dimensions: 190mm x 150mm (writing area: 150-160mm x 120mm).
Foliation: 105 ff + f. i + f. ii + f 1* (plus 3 unfoliated modern flyleaves at the back).
Scripts: late 16th or early-17th scribal hand.
Binding: Post-1600. Blind-stamped and -tooled brown leather with the armorial bookplate of Thomas Grenville gold-stamped on the outsides of the upper and lower covers; and gold-stamped on a white paper label pasted on the inside of the upper cover. On the spine is gold-stamped the title, 'Leycester Commons M.S.'. On the inside cover is the trade label of the bookseller and bookbinder of William Ford of No. 2, St Ann's Square, Manchester.
- Custodial History:
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Origin:
England.
Provenance:
Francis Downes (possibly Francis Downes of Wardley Hall, Lancashire, 1606-1648).
John Watson (1725-1783), Church of England clergyman and antiquary (see f. 1r).
Thomas Grenville (1755-1846), politican and book collector.
Grenville bequeathed his collection to the British Museum.
- Former Internal References:
- XXI
- Publications:
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The copie of a leter, wryten by a Master of Arte of Cambrige, to his friend in London, concerning some talke past of late betwen two worshipful and graue men, about the present state, and some procedinges of the Erle of Leycester and his friendes in England. Conceyued, spoken and publyshed, wyth most earnest protestation of al duetyful good wyl and affection, towardes her most excellent Ma. and the realm, for whose good onely it is made common to many [1584] (ESTC: S108682; STC, 2nd edn, 5742.9).
Leicester’s common-wealth. Conceived, spoken and published with most earnest protestation of dutifull goodwill and affection towards this realme. By Robert Parsons Jesuite. Whereunto is added Leicesters-ghost (London, 1641) (ESTC: R12740; Wing: L969).
Peter Lake, Bad Queen Bess? Libels, Secret Histories and the Politics of Publicity in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth I (Oxford, Oxford University Press, 2016).
Leicester's Commonwealth: The Copy of a Letter Written by a Master of Arts of Cambridge (1584) and related documents, ed. by D.C. Peck (Athens, OH, and London: Ohio State Press, 1985).
- Material Type:
- Archives and Manuscripts
- Legal Status:
- Not Public Record(s)
- Names:
- Arundell, Charles, d 1587
Downes, Francis, of Wardley Hall, politician, 1606-1648
Dudley, Robert, 1st Earl of Leicester, courtier and statesman, ?1532-1588
Duneides, L., scribe, fl 1584-1620
Grenville, Thomas, politician and book collector, 1755-1846
Watson, John, Curate of Ripponden, and Rector of Stockpool