Hard-coded id of currently selected item: . JSON version of its record is available from Blacklight on e.g. ??
Metadata associated with selected item should appear here...
Papyrus 2469
- Record Id:
- 040-002105502
- Hierarchy Root Ancestor Record Id:
- 032-002104451
- MDARK:
- ark:/81055/vdc_100000000224.0x000195
- LARK:
- ark:/81055/vdc_100143124575.0x000001
- SLARK:
- Format:
- ISAD(G)
- Reference (shelfmark):
- Papyrus 2469
- Title:
-
Aeschines Socraticus, Alcibiades (P.Oxy. XIII 1608, P.Lond.Lit. 148, CPF I.1.1 8, TM 58965, LDAB 60, MP3 19)
- Scope & Content:
-
Fragments of Aeschines Socraticus’ dialogue ‘Alcibiades’, preserving the discussion between Socrates and Alicibiades on Themistocles and his relations with his parents, which led to disinheritance.
- Collection Area:
- Western Manuscripts
- Project / Collection:
- Greek Manuscripts
Papyri Collections - Hierarchy Record Ids:
- 032-002104451
040-002105502 - Is part of:
- Papyrus 1-3136 : Papyri
Papyrus 2469 : Aeschines Socraticus, Alcibiades (P.Oxy. XIII 1608, P.Lond.Lit. 148, CPF I.1.1 8, TM 58965, LDAB 60, MP3 19) - Hierarchy:
- 032-002104451[0738]/040-002105502
- Container:
- View / search within Archive / Collection: Papyrus 1-3136
- Record Type (Level):
- File
- Extent:
-
19 fragments of varying size from a papyrus roll, numbered 1-19 inside the frame; fragment 3 was never received by the British Museum and is lost. Fragments 1, 7 and 10 are darker by patches. Writing is on one side along the fibres, the back being blank. Each fragment contains portions of a column, with the exception of fragments 4 and 7, which preserve parts of two columns. Each column presumably had 30 lines and was 60 mm wide. The intercolumn, preserved by fragments 4 and 7, measures 15 mm. The lower margin survives to 35 mm, the upper to 10 mm. The fragments are mounted on cardboard in a glass case.
- Digitised Content:
- http://access.bl.uk/item/viewer/ark:/81055/vdc_100143124575.0x000001 (digital images currently unavailable)
- Thumbnail:
-

- Languages:
- Greek, Ancient
- Scripts:
- Greek
- Start Date:
- 0150
- End Date:
- 0250
- Date Range:
- 2nd century-3rd century
- Era:
- CE
- Access:
-
Please request the physical items you need using the online collection item request form.
Digitised items can be viewed online by clicking the thumbnail image or digitised content link.
Readers who have registered or renewed their pass since 21 March 2024 can request physical items prior to visiting the Library by completing
this request form.
Please enter the Reference (shelfmark) above on the request form.If your Reader Pass was issued before this date, you will need to visit the Library in London or Yorkshire to renew it before you can request items online. All manuscripts and archives must be consulted at the Library in London.
This catalogue record may describe a collection of items which cannot all be requested together. Please use the hierarchy viewer to navigate to individual items. Some items may be in use or restricted for other reasons. If you would like to check the availability, contact our Reference Services team, quoting the Reference (shelfmark) above.
- User Conditions:
- Physical Characteristics:
-
Materials: Papyrus.
Dimensions: Fragments of varying size: Fr. 1: 90 x 60 mm; Fr 2: 74 x 38 mm; Fr 3: lost; Fr. 4: 160 x 98 mm; Fr. 5: 61 x 40 mm; Fr. 6: 35 x 25 mm; Fr. 7: 78 x 100 mm; Fr. 8: 62 x 15 mm; Fr. 9: 35 x 28 mm; Fr. 10: 20 x 15 mm; Fr. 11: 21 x 18 mm; Fr. 12: 20 x 10 mm; Fr. 13: 22 x 29 mm; Fr. 14: 16 x 14 mm; Fr. 15: 22 x 16 mm; Fr. 16: 20 x 13 mm; Fr. 17: 12 x 8 mm; Fr. 18: 5 x 6 mm; Fr. 19: 6 x 5 mm. Housed in a glass case measuring 255 x 330 mm.
Script: Severe style. Elegant sloping hand of good size. Iota adscript is usually written and diaeresis occurs over initial iota and upsilon; there are occasional corrections by a second hand, which added a breathing and accent in fragment 4 line 5. Elision is marked in fragment 4, line 21. Paragraphus, colon, high and low dots occur, alongside a marginal mark.
- Custodial History:
-
Origin: Oxyrhynchus, Oxyrhynchite nome, Egypt.
Provenance: Oxyrhynchus, Oxyrhynchite nome, Egypt. Presented with a lot comprising Papyri 2435-2485 by the Egypt Exploration Society on 18 July 1922.
- Former External References:
- CPF I.1.1 8(1)
P.Lond.Lit. 148
P.Oxy. XIII 1608 - Publications:
-
Catalogue of Additions to the Manuscripts in the British Museum in the Years 1921-1925 (London: British Museum 1950), p. 366.
The Oxyrhynchus Papyri XIII (London: Egypt Exploration Fund 1919), pp. 88-94, no. 1608.
A. Roscio, 'Nuovi dialoghi socratici', Rivista ď Italia 22 (1919), pp. 502-504.
W. Nestle, Die Sokratiker in Auswahl übersetzt und herausgegeben (Jena: E. Diederichs 1922), pp. 180-181.
A. Körte, ‘Literarische Texte mit Ausschluß der christlichen’, Archiv für Papyrusforschung und verwandte Gebiete 7 (1924), pp. 114-160 (p. 155, no. 601).
S. Luria, ‘Väter und Söhne in den neuen literarischen Papyri’, Aegyptus 7 (1926), pp. 243-268 (pp. 248-249).
H. J. M. Milne, Catalogue of the Literary Papyri in the British Museum (London: British Museum 1927), p. 123, no. 148.
J. U. Powell, E. A. Barber, New chapters in the history of Greek literature, second series; some recent discoveries in Greek poetry and prose, chiefly of the fourth century B.C., and later times (Oxford: Clarendon Press 1929), pp. 103-104.
A. E. Taylor, Philosophical Studies (London: Macmillan 1934), pp. 10-19.
E. G. Berry, ‘The Oxyrhynchus Fragments of Aeschines of Sphettus’, Transactions and Proceedings of the American Philological Association 81 (1950) pp. 1-8.
K. Gaiser, Protreptik und Paränese bei Platon: Untersuchungen zur Form des platonischen Dialogs (Stuttgart: W. Kolhammer 1959), p. 94.
A. Bauer, F. J. Frost, Themistokles: Literary, epigraphical and archaeological testimonia (Chicago: Argonaut 1967), pp. 107-108
G. C. Field, Plato and his contemporaries: a study in fourth-century life and thought (London: Methuen 1967), pp. 147-148.
A. J. Podlecki, The life of Themistocles: a critical survey of the literary and archaeological evidence (Montreal: McGill-Queen's University Press 1975), pp. 78-79.
F. J. Frost, Plutarch's Themistocles: a historical commentary (Princeton, N.J.: Princeton University Press 1980), pp. 20-21, 69.
L. Piccirilli, ‘L’apokeryxis di Temistocle', in Studi in onore di Arnaldo Biscardi I (Milano: Cisalpino-Goliardica 1982), pp. 343-355.
L. Piccirilli, in C. Carena, M. Manfredini, L. Piccirilli, Le vite di Temistocle e di Camillo (Milano: Fondazione Lorenzo Valla-A. Mondadori 1983), pp. 227-228.
A. Esposito, L. Rossetti, ‘Socrate, Alcibiade, Temistocle e i "Dodici dèi"’, Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik 54 (1984), pp. 27-35.
K. Döring, ‘Der Sokrates des Aischines von Sphettos und die Frage nach dem historischen Sokrates’, Hermes 112 (1984), pp. 16-30 (p. 18).
L. Rossetti, ‘Aeschines Socraticus’, Corpus dei papiri filosofici greci e latini: CPF. Testi e lessico nei papiri di cultura greca e latina. 1, Autori noti. (Firenze: L. S. Olschki 1989), pp. 120-134 no. 8.1.
M. Joyal, The Platonic Theages: An Introduction, Commentary, and Critical Edition (Stuttgart: F. Steiner 2000), p. 70.
W. Blösel, Themistokles bei Herodot: Spiegel Athens im fünften Jahrhundert: Studien zur Geschichte und historiographischen Konstruktion des griechischen Freiheitskampfes 480 v. Chr. (Stuttgart: Steiner 2004), p. 70 and passim.
D. C. Barker, ‘Codex, Roll, and Libraries in Oxyrhynchus’, Tyndale Bulletin 57 (2006), pp. 131-148 (pp. 136-137 and passim).
L. Del Corso, ‘Lo 'stile severo' nei P.Oxy.: una lista’, Aegyptus 86 (2006), pp. 81-106 (p. 85).
- Material Type:
- Archives and Manuscripts
- Legal Status:
- Not Public Record(s)
- Names:
- Aeschines, Socraticus, fl 330 BC
- Places:
- Oxyrhynchus (Bahnasa), Oxyrhynchite nome, Egypt